HK's character flaws and dishonesty.
From: Mark Brandon
Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009
Attached is a resolution intended for the SCV member delegates to consider for an affirmative vote in favor of passage when gathered at Hot Springs Reunion. When confronted with the truth, HK Edgerton covers his tracks by blaming and accusing others of exaggeration or more to the point, outright lying in statements made regarding his character. The facts stated in the attached resolution are the gospel truth. HK will deny the facts, but witnesses to his actions and e-mail messages from him prove every accusation made in the attached resolution.
HK's problems with the SCV membership began the weekend of the Atlanta NASCAR race in 2007 where as firstname.lastname@example.org states HK made a "a big pile of money" selling flags. HK was the guest of Georgia Compatriot and car dealer Elijah CLoeman that weekend who invited him into his home, fed him and provided transportation to and from the race. Elijah brought HK to the race where he and others willingly allowed him to distribute nearly all the flags they brought and for which HK was either accepting or demanding a donation. No wone knows for sure other than the statements of witneses at teh race that weekend copied below who actually saw him pocketing money and making change for larger bills out of pocket. No one said that HK could not keep any of the donations he received but when HK was asked how much he took in. Instead of answering the question truthfuly, HK lied about the amount he'd taken in and then accused a child of stealing money while offering some lame excuse about charging a cell phone and leaving the money on the seat of the car or some other such unbelievable nonsense. No one wcould possibly believe that the money HK had ever left his pocket. The stament of witnesses to the events that weekend are included at the end othis message for the reader to consider. I consider the attached afidavit's of Elijah, Dan and Joel Coleman copied below to be truth. Anyone who's met Elijah Coleman would not question his dedicatin to the "Cause" or his honesty.
The biggest insult of the whole weekend occurred when HK was taken to a used car auction lot and offered at no charge, gratis, free, for nothing, a used 1998 Ford Explorer that would retail for $5,400. Any sensible person would have thanked his benefator profusely and accepted the gift. Instead, the ungratful HK refuses the gift and instead informs his benefactor that he wants a vehicle worth at lest $8,000. Hk could have taken the vehicle and sopld it for at a minimum $4,000 in qa heart beat and $5,400, the Blue Book retail, if he could be patient enough in showing the car instead of selling to the first person making an offer. Instead of being grateful for the generosity of ELijah, HK chose to insult his benefactor as you'll read in Elijah's report that follows. ,
An ungrateful HK made a ton of money that weekend selling flags. Selling flags and lining his pockets with profits from merchandise purchased by the dues of SCV all members. HK only had to get his mooching backside to Atlanta that weekend. All other expeses were born out of the generosity of Compatriot Elijah Coleman and the SCV. HK had no other expense outside of getting himslef there and back home. Yep HK made a ton of money that weekend at theexpense of every SCV member while insulting his host and otherwise being a first class jerk.
I have copied below, Compatriot Elijah Coleman's report of what transpired during the race weekend in Atlanta. HK has already denied the facts presented in Elijah's report below accusing Elijah of being a lair. Calling others liars is the standard defnse that HK offers when confronted with the truth. I'm assuming most of the individuals I have copied on this e-mail are my Compartriots in the SCV. I sincerely hope that the facts in the attached resolution and Compatriot Elijah Coleman's report below shed a new light on the character of one HK Edgerton that it appears you all seem to hold in high regard being rotinely copied on the propaganda that HK puts out inthe public for consumption by the uninformed masses. Hopefully the resolution attached or another edited to include all the swearing, cursing and name calling tht HK can do between now and the Reunion will be read and a vote of approval wil be rendered in Hot Springs. It is past time that the entire Confederation is made aware of the fact that Hk's interest in our southern heritage is all about money. Passage of this or another similar resolution wil be disseminated through out the COnfederation of Camps so others will not ocntinued to be routinely fleeced by HK Edgerton.
I Remain Your Humble Servant in Defense of the Cause"
Mark V. Brandon
Henry Watkins Allen Camp #133
Baton Rouge, LA
From: NasRebs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NasRebs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Elijah S. Coleman
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007
Subject: [NasRebs] Summary of nascar blitz Saturday & Sunday
In preparation of the Hellanta nascar Spring race, about 20 activists volunteered to help in the proliferation of our Southern Battleflag that has been attacked by nascar.
I understand that a grant from SCV National of about $10,000.00 has bought 5,000 3X5' Battleflags and will also pay for several banner plane flights over 6 races in the South. Mr. Grayson Jennings from Virginia ordered the flags and banner plane flights.
My Son and I had previously cut Battleflag signs from old political signs and had them ready to install, with the staple guns ready. A tank of helium, cords and bags of balloons were also ready.
On Friday, a day early, Grayson and H. K. arrived at Dixie Rides while Rhett and I were at work. They had brought a truck load of flags (800) and these were looking good with the Battleflag and checkered flag. We hung one out front on U. S. 78, 278. We were glad to see them arrive.
A previous call had been put out to help H. K. get a vehicle. Others and I had offered to help. Since I was not going to sell any of my cars (for appearances sake) we took H. K. and Grayson to the wholesale lot where we buy cars by bidding on each car. Our desire was to find a dependable vehicle for H. K. and I thought a 98 Ford Explorer there would be nice and doable for about $3,000.00.
On that Friday, we were excited about our plan for nascar. Grayson is a fine, generous and dedicated Southern gentleman from Virginia and he is doing a great job in this mission. He even gave H. K. the $100.00 donation toward this mission that I received from Florida's Sally Raburn.
Saturday Dan Coleman set up a motor home for us at nascar about 3 P.M. We met there and began our agenda. H. K. quickly took dozens of the flags and started getting these SCV donated flags out "with donations to H. K.'s pocket", usually from 50 cents up to $5.00. The others, Joel, Rhett, Craig, Henry and I started filling balloons with helium to raise our flags, which some were tethered. On others we would mount Battleflags under and release to float over nascar. What beautiful sites these were both Saturday and Sunday. About every 30 minutes, H.K. would come and reload his bag with flags to distribute.
On this day H. K. told me he was not interested in older cars, and wants donors to send to him $8,000 or $9,000. Needless to say, I didn't take his address. About that time I began to see a new H. K. obsessed with money as he spoke of everybody ripping him off on past visits by him to Florida and other States. Money was the main thing on his mind. After collecting that $100.00 and all the donations from 400 flags he delivered to the public on Saturday, I realized he was now in the heritage fight only for the money. H. K. kept all the money.
With only 400 flags remaining, I called Cheryl and had her send out an email to the others (Michele, Rod, Billy, Dan Roberts, Craig, and Steve that they were not really needed but to come if they wished. When it got dark on Saturday, Henry from Jacksonville, FL and I went out and installed Battleflag signs up and down 20 miles on the divided Hwy. U. S. 41 for our Sunday nascar visitors. Meanwhile, Rhett, Dan, Joel, and Craig (a helpful Yankee friend) took about 40 flags inside nascar. They were prepared to pay one $50.00 or so, but a loyal Southerner at the gate let them all in free and they plastered nascar red with these flags.
With a few hours sleep, we left Sunday A.M. early for our main day at nascar. H. K. again loaded up and gave out "for donations to H. K.", 200 more flags. Meanwhile Dan, Joel, Rhett, Henry, Grayson, a fellow from Alabama, and I launched more flags over nascar. Joel took one to the entrance of nascar and tethered it there. Dan took one down there too where
thousands couldn't miss our Battleflag.
Next our Confederate Air Force showed up about noon and towed a huge Battleflag with the checkered flag. In the rear was the message "Don't forget your Southern roots". People in the stands gave an applause. About that time H. K. came back complaining about having only about one hundred and something dollars. You see none of us were there to make money, so I (the only one) finally spoke up and told H. K. I had personally seen him put more than that in his pockets and that I knew he had hundreds in his pockets from 600 flag donations and Sally's $100.00. Rather than to count the money, he started cursing me. I've had enough of the new H. K. Others gave out the remaining 40 flags and donations were about $2.00/flag.
The first nascar blitz of Battleflags was 100% accomplished. We will do it again in the Fall if Grayson finds that one of the other 5 races cannot be blitzed as scheduled. We enjoyed meeting Grayson from Virginia and Henry from Florida and enjoyed working with them. Thanks for coming to Georgia.
Elijah S. Coleman, Georgian
Sen. Hoar of Massachusetts, speaking of the South on the floor of the U. S . Senate on the 23rd of February, 1889. Sen. Hoar did not understand the South and it's problems before, during and after Reconstruction, nor was he unbiased toward the South, but he sure did have a good understanding of Southern men.
"They have some qualities which I cannot even presume to claim in an equal degree for the people among whom I, myself, dwell. They have an aptness for command which makes the Southern gentleman, wherever he goes, not a peer only, but a prince. They have a love for home; they have, the best of them, and the most of them, inherited from the great race from which they come, the sense of duty and the instinct of honor as no other people on the face of the earth. They are lovers of home. They have not the mean traits which grow up somewhere in places where money-making is the chief end of life. They have, above all, and giving value to all, that supreme and superb constancy which, without regard to personal ambition and without yielding to the temptation of wealth, without getting tired and without getting diverted, can pursue a great public object, in
and out, year after year and generation after generation."
The following is another part of Compatriot Elijah Colema's rpeort of the Atlanta race weekend in a letter to HK apologist-in-chief, Dewey Barber. His is part of his report plus some thoughts of Joel and Dan Coleman.
----- Original Message -----
From: Elijah S. Coleman
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007
Subject: Reply to Dewey about the new H. K
This is my reply to Dewey's two letters:
Some H. K. apologists have said that H. K. should have a brand new car. I read Dewey's letter praising H. K. and in error, days later, reported that he also thought H. K. should have a new car. Let me say here that Dewey's letter didn't go that far after reading it again.
In a December 19, 1998 Asheville Citizen-Times article, Asheville NAACP President, H.K. Edgerton, whose title has been suspended by the NC NAACP, said the reason he turned to Lyons is, "Money. Everything is about money."
"The NAACP is an organization whose policy against the symbols of our ancestors and their interpretation of history is one that I do not accept. However, I hate no one in it's organization, and I see no man as my enemy. We are all Americans who have many, many common causes." H. K.
Dewey and Neill, are writing and taking the side of H. K. as not being a money grubber. Neill Payne wrote that H. K. should have turned down the "junk" car donation that would retail for $3,000.00. Wrong.
BlueBook.com lists this vehicle at retail at $5,400.00.
As a dealer, I was getting H. K. a 98 SUV at dealer wholesale for $3,000.00. This is not a "junk" car and many, many have written that they would love and appreciate such a car. At the time of refusal, I had only received $100.00 pledges from 3 people and myself. I was going to give H. K. this nice car believing that I could raise the other $2,600.00. Neil and Dewey may drive new cars, but most of us in the field, working for free, drive lesser cars including Cheryl and I. We have no appreciation for those who cannot accept gifts graciously. I once thought H. K. was sincere and I have previously handed him money along with thousands of others. That was before the third day here for the Battleflag distribution where the real H. K. came out.
It has been confirmed that H. K. was given three hundred dollar bills and that H. K. passed out, for donation to H. K, about 400 flags Saturday afternoon and about 200 flags on Sunday A. M. The average each of the other flag distributors collected for donations was $2 for each flag. So H. K. picked up at nascar $300.00 mentioned above, and the donations he collected for about 600 flags. On Sunday H. K. was griping about only having one hundred and something dollars. Such an obvious lie caused me to simply challenge him to take the funds out of his pockets and count the money. You see I had seen H. K. converting small bills to larger bills, saw Grayson give him Sally's $100.00 donation, and saw him collecting donations from the public and from my Brother. At the time I didn't know about Grayson's other $100.00 bill given to H. K. nor did I know that Henry from Jacksonville had also given him a $100.00 bill. H. K. could have collected a total of about $1,500.00 (? no one knows) on this trip, and while here staying with me for three days, he did not have any expenses. I have decided that this poverty stricken man as described by his business associates has found himself in a very nice position to amass our heritage funds and donations.
I listened for three days of his griping about not getting his promised six to eight hundred dollars per protest trip to many States, including Florida. One day he kept downgrading the SLRC for using all the donated funds to pay only their fines leaving all the other Virginia lawyers vs. Dupont hanging without funds. He was so obsessed with getting these flags out for donations to H. K., that on the first day I had to call my wife to tell the others they weren't needed on Sunday. On Saturday night, my brothers and others went out and then on Sunday, they collected $2/flag. Later he and Grayson left and nothing was said about H. K.'s claim that all of H. K.'s money was taken from Grayson's truck by the young girl whose family had donated our motor home camp site. Speaking of libel H. K?
After I reported to the other donors about H. K. rejecting the $4,000 value car, and that he wanted them to send him $8,000.00 or $9,000.00, I withdrew my offer to raise any money for the money grubber. Now here comes H. K. and says he only collected seventy six cents for the first one hundred flags he handed out for donations. Only a fool could believe this after seeing race fans and my Brother handing H. K. money.
This is not about you or me and our character. We are well known. But the new H. K. is not known to many compatriots. Money was the only thing on his mind, and there was NO WAY he ever took those hundreds out of his pockets to be stolen by a young girl known very well by my Brothers. My closest estimate for H. K.'s nascar take was six hours work and his amassing a total of $1,500.00. H. K.'s two replies are full of lies. There's no way you can believe both of us. One of us is the biggest liar around. Choose as you wish. I have nothing to gain by exposing he who some believe to be the savior of the Southern cause. I have never followed H. K. He has joined us in the past. I have never thought H. K. should be the next President of the Confederacy as he now seeks implementation instructions from our C.I.C. After exposing traitors Allen Trapp, P. Charles Lunsford, and Rusty Henderson for treacherously working with King Roy Barnes to steal our State flag, I am accustomed to getting the truth out.
I don't have a problem with you suspecting HK. I don't have a problem with you accusing HK, if you feel it is justified. I just don't think you should do it publically for the whole world to see.
Why not warn the heritage community that H. K. is only after the big bucks. Then individuals and Camps can use their funds for flags, books, billboards, commercials, and etc?
My Mamma always told me, If you do not have anything good to say about people then don't say anything at all.
Infighting and exposure (removing rotten apples) has been necessary throughout history and always will be. The truth shall set her free.
HK has no money and no assets of any kind.
You had better rethink that line Dewey. Thousands have been throwing money at H. K. with no accountability. Dozens have recently told me they have been giving him $100 bills, but no more.
The idea that HK is working for our Southern heritage to make money is beyond laughable! A blind man could see that this about the least lucrative path you could take, if your goal was to make money.
It works for you Dewey, doesn't it. Is your Southern heritage income beyond laughable too? And we hope you don't get stuck with all those H. K. shirts.
These public accusations concerning HK are "suspicions" not supported by evidence. There is no evidence of how much money was "taken" and according to HK's recounting of the events, the money that was taken, was stolen by a person who gained access to the car under pretense of recharging her phone. In all the years of our association, HK has never once told me a lie and certainly never stolen. I have no reason to doubt his word.
Then you are implying that it is me who is the liar. Since Dewey, Neil, and H. K. derive income from the heritage movement, and I do not, the public can believe who they wish and spend and donate their money as they please. One could not have pried that money from H. K.'s pockets for accountability. I tried, and was told to go to Hell, perhaps ten times. And Dewey, why was this major alleged theft not reported, or may I say even mentioned for many days after my report on H. K.'s money grubbing?
Here's some comments from my family members who really think H. K. should be ignored as his statements are so ridiculous:
Joel Coleman wrote:
My guess as to how much money H.K. received from his giving out flags for donations would have been several hundred dollars. I know I gave him an $8 donation that was handed to me in front of the motor home on Saturday evening. It was my intent to donate $200 toward the purchase of a car fot for H.K., but that was before you told us that H.K. did not want a cheap car. One of the two young girls in question, I have known for years and believe her to be honest. The other girl I didn't know, but she is a mute and would have no need for a cell phone.
Dan Coleman wrote:
Point #1 - The mobile home was set up by 2:30 on Saturday afternoon, not Sunday morning. H K was there before 3 PM.
Joel and I spent the night and worked before H K arrived on Sunday.
Point #2 - It was not a 1-man show. We all worked on this project.
Point #3 - H K asked for donations for the flags from the start. Almost everyone gave dollars. Getting 2 donations of 76 cents after 100 flags is a ridiculous statement. Joel, Rhett, I, and the yankee passed out approximately 50 flags in the infield area late Saturday night after H K had left. We passed out others on Saturday and Sunday, probably 150 in all. We received donations of $292.00. H K did hurriedly dispose of more of the flags than others. He was anxious to do so.
Point #4 - The part about the young lady stealing his money & phone is garbage. I've known that woman for years. I do not believe she would do such a thing or that H K would leave that much money lying around.